Quotes from the Berlin Energy Transition Dialogue
Day 2 (21.03.2017)
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Barbara Hendricks, Environment Minister of Germany
鈥淚t鈥檚 no secret that Germany is no frontrunner when it comes to electric vehicles. But change is becoming visible.鈥
鈥淭he question no longer is if, but when alternative engines start to take over and the combustion engine ends up in the museum.鈥
鈥淭he farewell from coal and gas has long begun (鈥). The Paris Agreement is just the beginning, not the end.鈥
鈥淲e鈥檒l close ranks if single countries put the Paris Agreement into question.鈥
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Angus McCrone, Chief Editor Bloomberg New Energy Finance
鈥淓urope used to be the biggest region for green investment, now Asia has moved into that position.鈥
鈥淚ndia is very serious about its renewables and solar targets. The worry is that they will have rapidly increasing electricity demand and coal is very competitive there, so we could end up in a situation where both coal and renewables will grow significantly. India therefore is an important example in terms of what happens to emissions worldwide.鈥
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Suhail Al Mazroui, Minister of Energy of the United Arab Emirates
鈥淲e thought that if you go green, you need to subsidise. But it鈥檚 the opposite.鈥
鈥淭here are a lot of low-hanging fruits that we can capture in efficiency, demand side management and so on (鈥). There will be lots of job creation just by going down that road.鈥
鈥淲e shouldn鈥檛 talk about phasing-out fossil fuels 鈥 it鈥檚 more of a competition. But we will tackle fossil subsidies.鈥
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Tom Steyer, Founder NextGen Climate
鈥淭heres鈥檚 talk about 100 percent renewables in 2045 in California.鈥
鈥淓lectricity is regulated at the state level in the US (鈥) Regardless of political parties, people across the US want to move towards clean energy.鈥
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Kristian Parker, Board of Trustees Oak Foundation
鈥淒espite things happening faster with renewables than we thought, they鈥檙e not happening fast enough.鈥
鈥淚n Europe we need to find a way to exit coal (鈥). If renewable energy is to reach the space it has to reach, we need to give it that space.鈥
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Adair Turner, Chair of the Energy Transition Commission
鈥淲e have to decarbonise everything that cannot be electrified.鈥
鈥淲ithout a carbon price, we will not see action by (鈥) steel companies, by concrete companies (鈥)to seize the opportunities that technological progress has to offer.鈥
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Gerard Reid, Alexa Capital
鈥淚f money can鈥檛 find a home in renewables now 鈥 what鈥檚 going to happen in ten years鈥 time, when interest rates will have picked up again?鈥
鈥淭he biggest companies in the world are energy companies - and we need them to go into renewables. And how are we gonna do that? We need to tax their business models.鈥
鈥淢y biggest concern as a European is the German automobile industry. They鈥檝e blocked the electric transformation for a decade.鈥
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Greg Archer, Director at Clean Vehicles, Transport & Environment
鈥淭he German car sector seems determined on offsetting the emissions reduction progress in other sectors.鈥
鈥淕ermany鈥檚 car industry is only playing on transition. Out of a one billion euro advertising budget, only 4 percent are spent on advertising electric vehicles.鈥
鈥淒ieselgate has killed the market for diesel outside of Europe.鈥
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Cornie Huizinga, Secretary General at the Partnership on Sustainable Low Carbon Transport (SLoCaT)
鈥淲e need confidence on a global level that the transport transformation is an opportunity rather than a problem.鈥
鈥淓lectrification of vehicles is not the sole solution 鈥 if Beijing, for example, was all e-cars, we would have clean congestion there.鈥
鈥淚mproving the availability of sidewalks is the cheapest way of making transport infrastructure investments for a city.鈥
Els de Wit, Programme manager at the Dutch Ministry of Tansport
鈥淥il and gas reserves have allowed Netherlands to become lazy when it comes to decarbonising transport.鈥
鈥淔iscal policy is what brought up electric vehicles鈥 share in the Netherlands 鈥 rising demand creates pressure on producers.鈥
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Prof. Wang Zhongying, Director at the China National Renewable Energy Centre
鈥淚n China, there are six million coal miners 鈥 that鈥檚 equal to Denmark鈥檚 population.鈥
鈥淚 hope that, by 2050, two thirds of energy supply in China can come from non-fossil sources.鈥
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Philipp Schr枚der, Managing Director at Sonnen GmbH
鈥淭here is one tool that鈥檚 more powerful than regulation, and that鈥檚 business models that are attractive to consumers (...) We need to enable businesses to provide compelling services. If we unleash the consumer, we can unleash change much faster than we can imagine. If you get the consumer, you get the investors.鈥
听鈥淚nvestors in renewables keep saying 鈥榩lease show me one model that works without feed-in tariffs鈥.鈥
鈥淭he energy transition is the biggest business opportunity there is.鈥
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Rainer Baake, State secretary in the Economy Ministry of Germany
鈥淭he renewables鈥 share in Germany has been going up and up while emissions stalled. And this is due to the failure of the European Emissions Trading System.鈥
鈥淭he energy transition is possible and it is affordable. It is of utmost importance that we look at the transition not as a burden, but as on opportunity.鈥
鈥淲e need a real efficiency revolution in all sectors, otherwise we will not be able to make this an economic success story.鈥
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Day 1 (20.03.17)
Sigmar Gabriel, Foreign Minister of Germany:
鈥淚ndustrialised countries are no longer those who advance renewables expansion the most.鈥
鈥淪ustainable energy provision is also a question of international security and justice.鈥
鈥淓nergy transition can make the world safer and fairer.鈥
鈥淎 marginalised idea that used to be smiled at has become a global future trend.鈥
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Brigitte Zypries, Economy Minister of Germany:
鈥淎 secure and affordable transition to environmentally friendly energy provision remains a hot topic 鈥 I鈥檓 sure we鈥檒l meet here again next year.鈥
鈥淚nitially, it was all about increasing the share of renewables. Now we鈥檝e got to look at the system as a whole and keep an eye on costs 鈥 renewables have to take on greater responsibility.鈥
鈥淒igitalisation will help us connect [Germany鈥檚] 1.5 million energy producers.鈥
鈥淪tart-ups look for access to established [energy] companies 鈥 and vice versa.鈥
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Nur Bekri, Director at the National Energy Administration of China:
鈥淲e want to go on on an energy transition path with Chinese characteristics.鈥
"China鈥檚 CO2-emissions will peak as soon as possible.鈥
鈥淭he market is a very important driver to keep [China鈥檚 energy transition] competitive and flexible.鈥
鈥淲e have to rely on private companies鈥 and enterprises鈥 capabilities.鈥
鈥淲e鈥檒l have to reinforce international cooperation and exchange to face obstacles and difficulties [in energy transition].鈥
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Adnan Z. Amin, Director International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA):
鈥淓nergy transition no longer is a rich man鈥檚 game 鈥 it鈥檚 become available for all.鈥
鈥淭he business case for renewables never has been stronger.鈥
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Fatih Birol, Director International Energy Agency (IEA):
鈥淲e鈥檙e fortunate that Germany presides the G20 at this important juncture of energy provision; I can tell you its achievements are a big source of inspiration for many countries around the world - although of course simple copy and paste is not possible.鈥
鈥淚ncreasing nuclear capacities is also important in order to reduce emissions.鈥
鈥淭he G20 countries account for 80 percent of global energy consumption and more than 80 percent of emissions.鈥
鈥淭hat鈥檚 what we do 鈥 we get our hands dirty with data.鈥
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Miguel Arias Canete, EU Commissioner for Climate Action and Energy:
鈥淪howing [climate] leadership is doing our own homework.鈥
鈥淸The EU] did not increase its climate targets after the Paris Agreement because they already are the most ambitious.鈥
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Ng Wai Choong, CEO at Singapore鈥檚 Energy Market Authority:
鈥淲e do not provide any subsidies, since we believe in right pricing. But we鈥檙e going to introduce a carbon tax that represents the costs [caused by CO2-emissions].鈥
鈥淚ntermittent power sources [like wind and solar power] need to be priced for the burden they put on the [electricity] system.鈥
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Lisa Davis, Member of the managing board at Siemens AG:
鈥淓nergy transition has caught its own momentum (鈥). I don鈥檛 see policy in the US to change that (鈥). Renewables won鈥檛 be detoured by policy.鈥
鈥淥ur role as companies is to bring technology and innovation to the market place 鈥 the good news: most of these technologies are already available in the market place today.鈥
鈥淸We have to] balance the needs and capabilities of all countries to make this happen. Every country and region needs an individual approach.鈥
鈥淭he more you have market forces and consistent rules, the more this will encourage investments.鈥
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Claude Turmes, Member European Parliament, President of the European Forum Renewable Energy Sources (EUFORES):
鈥淭he technology is there 鈥 we have everything to move forward fast.鈥
鈥淩enewables used to be expensive. They now have become standardised mass products.鈥
鈥淏aseload is a concept of the past (鈥) We have to lower barriers for demand side management.鈥
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Bertrand Piccard, Chairman of the Solar Impulse Foundation:
听鈥淲e need to switch to a solution-driven rather than a problem-driven paradigm and replace depression with optimism.鈥
鈥淭he population wants to have leadership instead of management (鈥) They want a clear 20-year vision that explains why it is necessary.鈥
鈥淚t has become more important to be logical than ecological 鈥 even for climate change deniers, more efficient solutions can be appealing.鈥
鈥淲e need to make participation in energy transition trendy, fashionable, and exciting.鈥